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The Truth About CA AB 147 and the Impact on Amazon Sellers

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Good Morning this is attorney Sam Brockman with Brotman law here at San Diego and the title of this video blog post is California a B 147 and its impact on Amazon sellers so I’ve been getting a lot of questions over the last two weeks about the proposed legislation in California which is California a B 147 and what it means for Amazon sellers and there has been a great amount of confusion with our current clients with some of the prospective clients that called us and then generally in the community about what the bill is and what it means so I finally had an opportunity to sell out last night and read through the whole bill and so I wanted to share some of my thoughts on what the bill proposes to do what it does not do and then the ultimate impact on the Amazon community as a whole so California a B 147 is a direct response by California to the Wayfarer decision and what that means is the very first thing that a B 147 does is it expands.

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  • Topic: The Truth About CA AB 147 and the Impact on Amazon Sellers
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How Does California Locate Taxpayers and Their Assets?

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So this is actually a very interesting subject and something that we as tax practitioners talk about quite frequently. So the first way that California tracks you is through any filings that you do with the state. So for example, everybody in California files a tax return with the Franchise Tax Board and you have an address on them. So they use the address based on your FTB returns and the addresses that are submitted to third parties like banks and credit institutions and things like that to track your current information. Number two is they pull your credit report. So the same credit report that you can pull through Experian or TransUnion the state of California has access to and they can use it to locate taxpayers and their assets. Number three is California gets data from the IRS. So the IRS has a much more expanded database of taxpayer information and particularly for taxpayers that have moved out of California or might be in other places. The federal government is often a much more reliable and more accurate source of information.

Key Takeaways

  • So this is actually a very interesting subject and something that we as tax practitioners talk about quite frequently. So the first way that California tracks you is through any filings that you do with the state.
  • The next thing they do if they’re serious is they use a program called accurate and accurate is a massive public records database. So as you think about it, you and I go through our daily life.

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How Much Is the IRS Going to Ask Me to Pay Per Month?

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Key Takeaways

  • So there’s a calculation and there’s a formula the IRS uses.
  • The IRS is a lot like the post office.
  • So the IRS is looking at your income.

So there’s a calculation and there’s a formula the IRS uses. The IRS is a lot like the post office. They have procedures and they have formulas and they have ways that they do things so with respect to how much they’re going to ask you to pay, what they look at is, assuming that you don’t have enough to pay them in full, that you just don’t have the cash sitting in your bank account. Then they’ll look at a payment plan and the payment plan is based on how much income you’re earning and what the IRS considers to be ordinary and necessary expenses so if you pull out an IRS financial statement, you can look at the expenses and the expenses are things like food and clothing and transportation cost and a couple of other different things. So the IRS is looking at your income. They’re subtracting out what they consider to be necessary expenses, not luxuries, and then they come up with a residual and if you run that calculation and you get to your residual then you’ll understand how much they’re going to request. Keep in mind the residual that you’re showing based on that limited analysis is what the government’s going to work out. Not to say that you’re going to have to pay that amount but it’s at least a good starting point for figuring out how much the IRS is going to ask you for at the outset of this.

How Does an IRS Payment Plan Work?

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So an IRS payment plan and negotiating one is both an art and a science. Let’s talk about the science side of things. So IRS payment plans start based on a formula and the formula looks at the available assets that a taxpayer has and the IRS determines whether the taxpayer could full pay or substantially pay the liability based on the value of those assets. So for example if you owe the government $50,000 and you have $50,000 sitting in your bank account, the IRS is going to want that absent some good reason. So they go through your expenses, they look at your house, in certain cases they look at the equity in your house, can you borrow against any assets, things like that. If they determine that you don’t have sufficient equity in your assets, then it becomes an income and expense analysis they look at your various sources of income they usually average it over a three-month period and then they’ll look at your ordinary and necessary living expenses. So the real kicker with this is the term ordinary and necessary. The IRS has standards and they’re based on both national standards and local living standards on how much things should cost. So like for example, with your housing the IRS has an average based on where you live of how much housing is in your area. If you go to.

Key Takeaways

  • So an IRS payment plan and negotiating one is both an art and a science. Let’s talk about the science side of things.
  • the IRS website and look up IRS housing standard, the number is probably not very much to your liking but the IRS comes up with these standards and then that’s what they consider to be your ordinary and necessary living expenses.

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If I Owe Money to the IRS How Do They Look at Credit Cards?

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  • Topic: If I Owe Money to the IRS How Do They Look at Credit Cards?
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If I Owe Money to the IRS How Do They Look at Credit Cards? So this is a topic of conversation we have a lot of clients and let me give you the position from the IRS side of things the IRS takes the position that they are not a bank so if you owe tax debt they consider themselves to be the supreme creditor so anything that is an unsecured debt including a credit card debt the IRS considers itself to be more of a priority than that debt so the practical effect of that is that when negotiating an IRS payment plan they will not allow you to write off your credit card expenses and this is a big shock for taxpayers because what happens isn’t going through a financial analysis income minus necessary expenses a lot of people will list their credit card debt and unless that credit card debt was incurred for let’s say business expenses or for something else that. The IRS considers necessary they won’t write in minimum credit card payments and will require you to pay a monthly installment agreement pay a payment that’s much higher because they’re not including the credit card down that so just keep in mind that credit card debt is not a saving grace if you have a substantial amount of credit card debt and it’s affecting your cash flow you’re going to want to speak with an attorney or qualified representative to help.

I Owe Money to the IRS, How Will the IRS Look at Educational Expenses?

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  • For college-age children and private educational expenses, here’s the bad news.
  • When factoring in an IRS payment plan or when negotiating a collection resolution, the IRS does not include any expenses that you have for your college-age children or any private educational expen…
  • The reason for this is that the government views those expenses as luxury items even though most taxpayers in the system in that situation would disagree.

For college-age children and private educational expenses, here’s the bad news. When factoring in an IRS payment plan or when negotiating a collection resolution, the IRS does not include any expenses that you have for your college-age children or any private educational expenses. The reason for this is that the government views those expenses as luxury items even though most taxpayers in the system in that situation would disagree. A lot of the pushback that we get from taxpayers is well if it’s a choice between paying for taxes and sending my kids to college, I’m going to send my kids to college and while I understand that sentiment as a parent myself, you have to understand that the IRS employees that you’re negotiating with often make a salary that’s a lot less than yours. So you’re dealing with somebody who would also view that expense as a luxury item. This is particularly true for kids who are over the age of 18. The IRS considers those children to be adults and therefore kicks them out of the nest. Now with that said, it does not mean that you cannot get an allowance for educational expenses or for supporting college-age children but there’s some tricks and tips to doing that and you’re going to have to be very careful on how you put those expenses in the file. So rather than go into that, what I recommend that you do is contact a qualified representative or tax attorney and have us walk you through how to best include those expenses and how to get your resolution.

If I Owe Money to the IRS Are They Going to Take My House?

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  • Topic: If I Owe Money to the IRS Are They Going to Take My House?
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If I Owe Money to the IRS Are They Going to Take My House? So let’s start by saying that yes the IRS can take your house if you are living in a house and you own that house free and clear and you owe money to the government the IRS is either gonna want you to borrow against that asset or they could potentially seize that asset now that’s a scary thought but for example if you’re living in a multi-million dollar home and owe the government a million dollars they’re not going to want you to continue to live in your multi-million dollar home and oh the government a million dollars so there’s gonna be a little bit of give and take there however the good news from the perspective of most taxpayers is number one it’s not very popular for the IRS to kick people out of their primary residences so seizing primary residence and kicking people out of their homes does it play out very well in the media so the IRS doesn’t usually seize principal residences at alas there are extreme or extenuating circumstances number two is there’s a lot of paperwork involved in seizing a house the IRS agents have to fill out a whole bunch of forms those forms have to get multiple signatures on them they have to go through an attorney and they have to get go through a court process and order through. The IRS to foreclose in your home so that’s a lot of work the IRS agents much prefer to go after low-hanging fruit they go after cash assets they go after bank accounts they go after stock accounts they go after wages to go after things that they can very easily seize so while they can take your house that’s not the first play in the IRS is playbook so generally speaking if you’re proactive in resolving your tax liability your house is generally safe.

Will the IRS Waive Interest and Penalties?

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Key Takeaways

  • Which can increase it dramatically.
  • Interest on tax liability is set by a statutory rate, so absent some major error by the IRS in the calculations, you are probably not going to get the interest waived.
  • The penalties on liability are usually pretty stiff, however penalties can be waived under certain circumstances with reasonable cause if there is a good faith excuse for why the tax debt was incur…


Clients will often owe fifty thousand, one hundred thousand or even millions of dollars in liability, and while they do not often object to the actual amount that is owed, they do object to the interest and penalties that get tacked on to the liability. Which can increase it dramatically. Interest on tax liability is set by a statutory rate, so absent some major error by the IRS in the calculations, you are probably not going to get the interest waived. The penalties on liability are usually pretty stiff, however penalties can be waived under certain circumstances with reasonable cause if there is a good faith excuse for why the tax debt was incurred. If there is a genuine reason why the debt was incurred and if you believe you may have reasonable cause, you can get advice from a tax attorney on how to assess your chances of successfully having penalties waived.

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